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			<title><![CDATA[Re: NBO in ORCA versus NBO run on 0.47 file generated by Multiwfn]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sam,</p><p>Cartesian basis functions have much stronger linear depenency problem than spherical-harmonic basis functions (perhaps this is severer when Cartesian basis function coefficients were not varitionally optimized in SCF procedure). I suggest using a basis set without angular moment &gt;=f for present purpose. NBO analysis is insensitive to basis set, so a relatively small basis set is adequate to obtain a reasonable result.</p><p>Best,</p><p>Tian</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2024 07:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[NBO in ORCA versus NBO run on 0.47 file generated by Multiwfn]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>(This is a question about Multiwfn, but please be patient as I provide relevant context)</p><p>I have encountered an issue in ORCA where running NBO analysis takes a shockingly long amount of time. <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q3kF0MosK_poe8YTbd7kCebCtutkETst/view?usp=share_link" rel="nofollow">In this example</a> NBO analysis took almost 22 hours! Far longer than the actual SCF, which should never be the case in my experience. In order to debug this, I want to run NBO externally with Gennbo. Thus, I have converted <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hV4ofkb6611FF17A2MAI_qON8dpo8Jco/view?usp=share_link" rel="nofollow">my gbw file</a> into a <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HZF2Xur7rJUBeu4G64loIEB5fhGbSiqI/view?usp=share_link" rel="nofollow">molden input file</a> with orca_2mkl and read this file into Multiwfn and converted it into <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jd0PPV_RVAsMSVeArQO9f_cdxPUAodb0/view?usp=share_link" rel="nofollow">a .47 file</a>. In the process, I got the message stating that &quot;This function cannot be used if any spherical-harmonic basis function has &gt;=f angular moment!&quot;, so I set iloadasCart=1 in settings.ini. I understand that this means that the Fock matrix will be flawed, and thus I will not be able to get the correct E2PERT info from NBO, but life goes on. I then ran Gennbo.sh on the .47 file and obtained <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ql5Z5z1baqEtJXmTLj4UMaQBU5G-wJXl/view?usp=share_link" rel="nofollow">this output</a>. </p><p>Unfortunately, the external NBO output and the ORCA NBO output look completely different. The differences begin immediately, with the external NBO reporting:</p><p> Alpha MOs are non-orthogonal (max Sij=0.011); continue without MOs<br /> Beta MOs are non-orthogonal (max Sij=0.011); continue without MOs</p><p>Then more linear dependencies are found than were reported in the ORCA NBO output, then negative population(s) and Pauli-violating population(s) are found and fixed, which wasn&#039;t the case in the ORCA NBO output. Then the Al S electrons are in the 5s and 6s Rydberg orbitals (clearly wrong) rather than the 1s and 2s core orbitals, as is the case in the ORCA NBO output.</p><p>My only conclusion is that something has gone very wrong in the conversion of the .gbw to .47. Am I just doing something very foolish? Help would be much appreciated!</p><p>Sincerely,<br />Sam</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2024 05:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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